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mike pelletier
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Oct 13, 2002 17:30:15 GMT
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when trying to install either mandrake 9 or redhat8, I get a kernel panic at the same sport, when its trying to detect pcmcia cards.. im thinking its because its one of the newer models with a newer chipset than is supported, but I need a confirmation of it..
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Dirk Dierickx
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Oct 14, 2002 05:47:18 GMT
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as far as i know, mandrake always had problems with pcmcia cards during the install.
just leave you pcmcia cards out during the install, and insert them when the install is complete and you are going to boot for the first time. |
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mike pelletier
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Oct 14, 2002 16:25:10 GMT
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it kernel panics with or without pc cards installed |
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ne he
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Oct 26, 2002 22:16:59 GMT
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I got the same problem for ze4101.
How to deal with it?
When I tried to install RedHat7.1. I found the power adapter is too hot. And the I do not know how to configure the X-window. Text mode works okey. But I could not boot into XP. when I run /sbin/lilo it said "partition entry not found". When I tried to install Grub /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda it said no bios something. I forgot.
Any ideas thanks. |
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ne he
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Oct 26, 2002 22:21:05 GMT
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HI, mike pelletier
Are you there? did you figure out the ze4101? Could you please email me if you already figured out?
Thank you.
You may use my emailaddress:
letsgo2go2@yahoo.com |
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Steven Olsen
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Oct 30, 2002 00:29:38 GMT
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I have the same problem. I hope there will be a solution soon, or on the auction block she goes. |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Oct 30, 2002 19:33:56 GMT
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Hi!
I got the same problem. Trying Red Hat 7.3.
If someone knows how to deal with it please let me know:
pliszka@phyweb.ucr.edu
If not - I will have to return
it or sell it.
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Jacek |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Oct 30, 2002 19:44:44 GMT
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OK, is kind of stupid to reply
5 minutes after my own post but..
In order to instlal Red Hat 73.
you need to give at the beginning linux nopcmcia option.
It allows to install but
it does not allow to use
PCMCIA.
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Jacek |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Oct 30, 2002 21:07:22 GMT
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OK, again replying to my own popst. I got RH 7.3 runing.
No PCMCIA though.
Procedure:
1. install with
linux nopcmcia option given
at the beginning
2. during or after
installation give boot option
nomce
3. during or after installation
turn off pcmcia start on boot
through removing the
link from /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
or /etc/rc.d/rc3.d
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Jacek |
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mike pelletier
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Oct 31, 2002 00:05:28 GMT
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well, the nopcmcia works, kinda anyway, now instead of getting that error; laptop freezes at the check cd windows |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Oct 31, 2002 05:47:26 GMT
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Martin Tzanov
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Oct 31, 2002 22:18:39 GMT
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I have the same problem, when I try to install Red Har 7.2, 7.3, 8.0. I noticed that when computer crashes while initializing PC Card, there is a message, part of which is "bank 3".One can see that under memory in sys info from 3DMark there are realy 3 banks memory recognized. Also SiSoft Sandra doesn't give any information about memory banks, but it says " Disabled host controllers are present. Check BIOS". Probably we have BIOS problem. |
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mike pelletier
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Oct 31, 2002 22:57:49 GMT
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u can get by that message by using "linux nopcmcia" when starting the install |
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Yong Xi
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Nov 1, 2002 05:39:29 GMT
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Mike, the freeze problem is really not "freeze". It's actually the keyboard not responding. To install the system, you should specify "nousb" as well as "nopcmcia".
Also, after you have installed the system, before booting into the system. You should add a kernel option "noisapnp".
BTW, I have installed Redhat 7.3 and I can use the touchpad, even the scroll bar is working perfectly. But after I upgraded it to Redhat 8.0, the touchpad is still working but the scroll bar is not working any more. Anyone has any idea about that?
Also, I would like to try to add APM and PCMCIA support. Anyone could shine some information on that?
Thanks. |
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Crazzy
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Nov 1, 2002 07:22:19 GMT
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Jacek Pliszka, thanks a bunch for putting up all that useful info about Linux on laptops on your webpage. I found it very helpful, and will post your link to a couple other forums too. |
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Crazzy
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Nov 1, 2002 07:25:07 GMT
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Yong Xi,
I had a couple friends say that they used the latest pcmcia-cs kernel to get their pcmcia working under redhat 8.0. I haven't tried it out myself, but will let you know what happens when I do so. |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Nov 1, 2002 08:12:48 GMT
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Jacek Pliszka
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Nov 1, 2002 08:19:25 GMT
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OK,
I got reply from David Hinds
and it looks like it is faulty
BIOS so we have two ways:
1. Ask HP for fix
2. Ask Linux kernel people
for fix
David claims that problem lies
int he routing conflict - this
is relevant part of /proc/pci:
Intel ISA/OCU/CardBus PCIC probe:
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0a.0
IRQ routing conflict for 00:0a.0, have irq 5, want irq 11
02Micro 0Z6912 rev 00 PCI-to_Cardbus at slot 00:0a, mem 0x80000000
host optos [0]: [pci/way] [pci irq 5] [lat 32/32] [bus 2/5]
HP people, if any of
you are reading this lists,
pleas respond/do something
about it. We are your
customers.
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Jacek |
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Martin Tzanov
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Nov 2, 2002 04:59:43 GMT
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Did any of you succeeded in modem instalation?
I downloaded the driver from conexant.com link and it recognized the modem vendor and device, but when I try to run kppp it says "modem busy". |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Nov 11, 2002 22:03:58 GMT
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Do you all have O2Micro PCMCIA controller or problems are with
TI controller as well ???
I returned KA with O2Micro to store and ordered KB with TI.
To Ken Giusti: I can not
reply to your e-mail as my
e-mail to you
gets bounced with an error.
So if you want a reply - you need to give another e-mail address.
Short reply is: no,
there was no help from HP
at all. This quite unpleasant
as we want just a little - just PCMCIA working as
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Erdem Kurul
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Nov 11, 2002 23:32:15 GMT
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yes, i also have
O2Micro OZ6912 Cardbus conroller. same pcmcia problem.
HP sent a reply to my problem "We dont support LINUX"
I have a week to return my laptop. I am undecided.
By the way, anyone tried Suse 8.1???
Erdem
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Antonio Sanchez
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Nov 12, 2002 04:03:37 GMT
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I also have the ZE4101 and am considering returning it to HP, if they don't work out their PCMCIA issues.
Am I correct that Red Hat 7.0+ and Mandrake 8.0+ install properly on the "KB" unit? |
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Martin Tzanov
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Nov 12, 2002 06:41:42 GMT
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How did you return it? Did you buy it directly from HP or through some retail store? I didn't buy it directly from HP and I'm not sure if I have to go through the retail store.
It's possible that KB version won't have the problem because both chipsets are Ali, while in KA one is Ali and the other one is ATi U1 (this one is very new). Also BIOS might be compatible with KB configuration. |
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Ken Giusti
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Nov 12, 2002 22:56:45 GMT
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Hi Jacek - you mentioned:
>>I returned KA with O2Micro to store and ordered KB with TI
How do I tell if my laptop is KA or KB? I've got a ZE4125...
All:
Has anyone had better luck with a KB?
I can return this laptop, but the store will demand a 15% restocking fee because the laptop is "NOT DEFECTIVE."
Yeah, not defective as long as you run windows....
...kinda surprises me. If we have a bad bios, why doesn't this problem occur on WinXP?
thanks for the help -K |
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Tim Rupe
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Nov 12, 2002 23:42:24 GMT
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I have a ze4145, and I've had the same problem installing Gentoo Linux after compiling the kernel. I've been able to disable the pcmcia checking, and have gotten as far as setting up Xfree. Right now, I can live without pcmcia, but I can't get my display working. Would anybody be so kind as to e-mail me their /etc/X11/XF86Config file?
For some reason, when I run 'startx', my display just blanks out and the caps lock and scroll lock lights on my keyboard blink.
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Tim
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Mike Kelland
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Nov 14, 2002 22:23:12 GMT
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Ok - I'm sitting in the warm afterglow of actually getting something working before the realisation that there's so much left to do.
I used a really nifty installation package of my favorite distro (Debian) call knoppix to get Linux onto my ze4115. Knoppix is amazing - it'll run linux (with 3 GB worth of installed packages) off of a CD and I have yet to see it fail to auto detect pretty much everything on pretty much any computer. (www.knopper.net/knoppix).
I used a boot option I found here to get it going: nomce. I also found that it would not boot with PCMCIA enabled (or at least with the card plugged in). So I had to either pop the card out or use the nopcmcia boot option.
Now I have a full featured KDE 3.0 desktop going off CD (with the option to write it to the hard drive) but no forseeable way to get PCMCIA running. If anyone finds out anything about that, I'd love to hear it.
Previous experimentation and knoppix's autodetection have shown me that with this laptop, vesa is the x driver to use. So if you haven't tried that yet, give 'er a go :)
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Jacek Pliszka
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Nov 15, 2002 09:51:10 GMT
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OK, do we all have O2Micro 6192 ? Or the problem is also for notebooks with TI controller ?
Ken: I am talking about ZE4101
which has two submodels:
KA - with O2Micro and Athlon CPU
and which has problems and
KB - with TI and Intel CPU and
which may work.
Regarding returns - you may
try 'not compatible with your
software'. Ask - maybe this
will help avoiding restocking fee.
Regarding Windows - MS products
are known for a lot of hacks
and fixes in them. Just
look at IE which renders
fine pages which are completly
incomaptible with any standards. And uneducated
people claim it means IE
is better ...
Jacek |
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John Kohler
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Nov 18, 2002 05:29:45 GMT
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I had a total failure completing the Red Hat 7.3 installation on my ze4101 until I passed the parameter to the installation kernel:
boot: linux nopcmcia
After installation, when I tried to boot from the laptop hard disk, I got the Kernel Panic as you all have. I found that I can use the LILO loader (I don't understand GRUB), and pass this parameter to the kernel each and every time I boot up now:
boot: linux nomce
I understand that this parameter works because the kernel panic is not a fatal error.
Now, I need to figure out why the DHCP ethernet configuration doesn't work at all and why the static configuration works only half way.
John Kohler |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Nov 21, 2002 03:50:55 GMT
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OK. I returned ZE4101 KA and got ZE4100 insread. Cardbus works!!!! Not perfectly as I have to run 'service pcmcia restart' when I enter the card but works!!
Red Hat 7.3 installation hints: 'linux nopcmcia' on the first screen and then VESA generic 1280x1024 resolution (1400x1050 does not work).
So for all you folks with Athlon ZE4101 I suggest replacing it due to 'hardware and software incompatibility' by ZE4100 (and probably ZE4101 KB).
I am done with this discussion.
BR,
Jacek |
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Tuomas Wiste
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Nov 28, 2002 12:34:24 GMT
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Hi, I'm here because I'm shopping around for a laptop to run linux on. The ze4101 looked great because it has amd thoroughbred + radeon = most efficient (x86) combo available in terms of heat disipation/battery life (much better than p4 -- dont let the marketing fool you).
Anyway, is it final then that there is a bios bug so forget getting the ze4101? Anyone happen to know if the Compaq Presario 906 (almost identical specs and very cool design) has the same bios?
I haven't seen the ze4101 in person. There seems to be a lot of talk about people trading back in for Intel version. Are the ze4xxx that great, or is getting Intel version only option because of rules or something on return? I'd be pissed and take my business to company that made working laptops and/or didn't say "we don't support LINUX".
However, someone at my school is sell a used ze4101 cheap, so please give final word on whether linux problems fixed or not. |
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John Kohler
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Nov 28, 2002 15:59:06 GMT
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I will just summarize my experience. With my ze4101 I could neither install Red Hat 7.3 or 8.0 with all defaults out of the box.
To the installer boot loader I had to add:
boot: linux nopcmcia
To the hard disk boot loader I had to add :
boot: linux nomce
Red Hat Incident Help Desk (@$39 per incident) instructed me how to remove the pcmcia option permanently from the "I" interactive part of the installation routine, and to add the "nomce" option to the file that starts the boot process (append="nomce" in the lilo.conf file with the "vi" editor.
I still have an ethernet card (NIC) issue with the National Semiconductor DP83815, in that it will not ping my router correctly and any outside IP address at all.
The internal modem in the ze4101 is a software driven modem that will operate under Windows.(called a WinModem and unusuable with linux) I got a used external modem and serial cable to the ze4101 and could configure it under Linux.
I am planning to return the ze4101 to Staples Office supply tomorrow.
John Kohler |
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ne he
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Nov 29, 2002 19:41:53 GMT
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Hi,
My experience is that RH 7.1 is pretty good. I met several cases when RH7.3 can not be installed correctly, but 7.1 can.
why don't you guys try RH 7.1
? When I installed it, there was no kernel panic(But 7.3 or 8.0 had). And it went very smoothly. While the problem is that the X-win did not work well. I was lazy and did not figure out how to configure it.
The big problem for me is that I the sound card is not driven corretly. When I mis-operate the keyboard, it beeps too lound. And the fan is always on high pitch.
So I delete all the RH stuff.
Do you guys also have this problem? |
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Mike Kelland
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Dec 1, 2002 04:53:08 GMT
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The issue with the built in NIC (the Nat Semi one) is easily fixable using the mii-tool program that should come with the natsemi driver (or from www.scyld.com). And I had good results with the trident sound driver. However the PCMCIA problem seems to be the real kicker on this laptop and so I hope that can be fixed and soon :) |
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Dick Miller
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Dec 1, 2002 22:17:44 GMT
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I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.0 and/or Red Hat 8.0 Linux on a Compaq Presario 906US laptop, and am experiencing the same "kernel panic" problem at the PCMCIA install point.
I also wonder whether I should bail out of this computer, or await some total solution.
This has been the best-fit search hit to date. Further clues much appreciated!
FWIW, Mandrake 9.0 on a prior Compaq Presario 700US was a generally automatic install. (Still not working: Belkin wireless PC LAN Card, and dual-boot restart into WinXP. But the built-in wired LAN runs fine, and I can power down, then restart into WinXP without problem.)
--Dick Miller <TheMillers@millermicro.com> |
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Jacek Pliszka
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Dec 3, 2002 02:30:16 GMT
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Martin Tzanov
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Dec 10, 2002 10:10:54 GMT
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Hi,
For those of you who still have ze4101.
I was able to install RedHat 8.0.
One has to install it in the same way as 7.3 installation, with a small addition "nousb" (Don't worry!!! after installation USB works just fine). So at boot one needs to start the installation with "linux nopcmcia nousb". It will tell later on that it doesn't recognize the mouse(touchpad) and gives an option to be configured. I chose MS IntelliMouse(PS/2). Then one needs the option "nomce" as in the case with 7.3.
You will probably need a USB mouse handy, because after all files are copied and before or during X setup the touchpad and the keyboard might freeze. Plug in the USB mouse to be able to complete the installation.
Even modem works under Linux. Go to Conexant website and follow the links, then choose the appropriate driver rpm.
PC Card is still the problem, but that is most probably faulty BIOS.
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Dennis Poehls
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Feb 7, 2003 21:05:50 GMT
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Well, everyone...in one of the older postings there was a comment made about "if this is a BIOS problem, whay are we not seeing it on Win XP machines??". I happen to have a ze4115 running WinXP and I have a SIMILAR problem with the 02Micro Cardbus. 16 bit PCMCIA cards work OK (although I have a heck of a time maintaining a connection to my wireless access point). 32bit CardBus cards, however will not allow installation because they freeze the computer or bring the speed to a crawl...very slow crawl at that. If the card is removed, the computer recovers and goes back to full speed (unless you slip the card BACk in and then it simply freezes and you have to do a hard re-boot). Obviously, it seems there is something wrong with the BIOS or HP's implementation of 02Micro's Cardbus subsystem. |
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Thomas Bell
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Feb 10, 2003 04:00:08 GMT
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I have an hp pavilion ze4125 and got the answer 'linux is not support'. after reading this string of comments about the cardbus, im pissed my return policy has already run out. i am going to try the http://www.knopper.net/knoppix distro running in readonly mode, how fun. its sad, maybe an upcoming distro from some flava might correct all the problems with this.
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Thomas Bell
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Feb 10, 2003 04:54:13 GMT
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I just downloaded and loaded that cd readable version of debian i posted before, it detected my cardbus without pc cards in there, detected my cdrw/dvd, sound and everything. I'm wondering if mandrake 9.0 will work fine if i just dont keep any pcmcia cards in there. hrm, maybe i'll just install it onto my hard drive? :) lil more happy now
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John Kohler
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Feb 10, 2003 15:00:23 GMT
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I have solved the problem with my ze4101. I sold it and bought a Dell Inspiron 4150 which does not provoke a "Kernel Panic" so does not require any boot loader commands to bypass:
boot: linux nomce.
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John Gardner
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Feb 20, 2004 06:10:53 GMT
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I've got a Compaq Evo N1015v and get the same problem...
Enabling PCMCIA extension cards...
Bank 3: b40000000000083b at 00000001fc0003c8
Kernel panic: Unable to continue
Just thought i'd add another to the list!
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bruce pool
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May 25, 2004 22:15:22 GMT
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Hi - I used this page when I was having kernel panic errors and found the
boot: linux nomce
worked perfectly - only started using Linux today and so far so good
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